The Sham Ph.D.
The experiences I share in this post will be an eye-opener for many readers. Anyone who has been a university professor for more than a few years, on the other hand, probably won’t be too surprised. In fact, I’ll bet some experienced academics will remember having witnessed similar shenanigans from time to time during their own careers.
My main goal here, as it has been in my last few posts, is to bring to light certain realities of higher education, which might in some way help the reader become a better-informed consumer. My secondary goal is admittedly personal, and a bit cathartic. Some of the events I recount here still trouble me. The events all took place within the same academic department, within a very highly regarded university, somewhere in North America. These events make certain individuals look bad, so I will be vague about details that could easily trace a route to identifying the university, department, or any of the involved persons. I have no doubt that similar events occur from time to time at most universities, so this is not really intended as a commentary about a particular institution or group of people. All I will say is that the university in the story is not Concordia University (my employer), but that is not to say that similar events could never happen at Concordia.
The good and the bad
Over the past 20 years, I have attended dozens of Ph.D. defenses, either as a member of the doctoral candidate’s examination committee, or as a member of the audience. I have seen a great range of quality, which is not surprising. Of course, some people are really great and truly impressive, whereas others are not quite as good, but still deserving of the doctoral degree. These two categories of deserving individuals make up a vast majority of doctoral candidates.
It may seem incredible, but the truth is, if you want a Ph.D. from an accredited university, you might not have to earn it the ‘old-fashioned’ way… you know, the way people used to earn doctorate degrees from any respectable university — by doing original research, making a contribution to knowledge, and demonstrating that one is somewhat expert, or at least highly knowledgeable, within some particular domain. Today, that hard work and established competence is no longer absolutely necessary in all circumstances. Of course, most Ph.D.s are still obtained in the traditional and honorable way. But, if you automatically assume that someone with a Ph.D. from a high-profile university must have earned it on the basis of merit, you are mistaken. A person can get a Ph.D. from even the most highly regarded universities despite being only mediocre, even if they are utterly incompetent and worse than mediocre. It does not happen often, but it does happen.
Fast-track to a Ph.D.
Believe it or not, some people have actually managed to obtain a Ph.D. simply by annoying or aggravating their graduate supervisors so much that the latter wants to get rid of the student as quickly as possible. Luckily, it’s difficult to kick someone out of graduate school just because that person has some disagreeable aspects to the their character or behavior. Understandably, some faculty members will take a prudent approach to such an uncomfortable situation and do what they can to facilitate the student’s completion of the Ph.D. program.
In most Ph.D. programs, the final critical step toward completion occurs when the student’s examination committee approves the quality and quantity of the candidate’s research, and the quality of the written dissertation. If it all passes muster, the candidate will get the doctoral degree.
Most of the time, when a faculty member wants to hasten the graduation of one of his or her Ph.D. students, this is at least partly accomplished by accepting some minor compromises in terms of the standard expectations. For example, maybe that one last experiment or chapter that was planned is not really needed for an acceptable dissertation. I don’t think it’s a problem, in most cases, when a doctoral student’s supervisor orchestrates these types of omissions, as long as there is input from the other faculty members on the student’s Ph.D. committee. It might not seem fair to all the other doctoral students who will be held up to the normal standard expectations, but what usually happens is that the unfairness or inequity, if we want to call it that, is somewhat corrected when the person becomes an ex-student and finally joins the workforce. By that, I mean that most employers who have to hire people with Ph.D.s look far beyond whether or not a job applicant has the academic credentials. They know that just because someone has the necessary degree for the job that does not mean the person can do the job. When applying for jobs in one’s field, recent recipients of a doctorate will still have to furnish references and letters of recommendations, a CV, and there may be interviews. As part of the vetting process, the mediocre and the posers are quickly discovered and eliminated from consideration.
And, now… the ugly
Now it’s time to tell the story about the events that compelled me to write on the present topic. They took place at a university that turns out a large number of excellent scholars, researchers, and professionals, each year. But, I know that they also recently awarded a Ph.D. to someone did not deserve one. I know this because I was an external member of that person’s examination committee, and I was, therefore, a first-hand witness to several demonstrations of ineptness. (‘external’ denotes from a different university)
In preparation for the oral defense, I read this person’s doctoral dissertation. It was very short, which was the only good thing about it. It was also terrible in many ways. The literature review was cursory and shallow. The chapters that described the candidates’ experiments were poorly organized, and the whole thing fit together like a 100-piece jigsaw puzzle that’s missing 80 pieces. The conclusions the candidate drew from the meager empirical results were not consistent with the existing literature, and they weren’t even very consistent with the student’s own data. I could go on and on about how bad this Ph.D. dissertation was, but let’s just say that when I arrived for the oral defense, the first thing I did was approach the student’s Ph.D. supervisor and asked, “What’s going on?” He knew immediately what I was talking about.
It took him only about a minute to explain, quietly but loud enough for the other committee members to hear, that he had no respect for the student, that the student was a liar, the student refused to follow any of the supervisor’s advice, and the student really didn’t know what he/she was talking about most of the time when it came to his/her research topic. Early on, the supervisor had tried to work closely with the student, but they had some sort of falling-out. He succinctly explained that he just want to get rid of this student.
I looked at the other faculty members from the student’s department who were on the committee, looking for any sign that they were concerned about the quality of the student’s work, like I was. Both of them are people I have known and respected for many years, and who have been at this business of training graduate students for longer than me. They both looked down, slightly slouching in a posture that resembled one of guilt or shame. Their subtle body language signaled to me that they knew what I was talking about, but they were not going to make it a big issue, and they seemed to be hoping that I would not do so, either. Maybe I was reading a lot into their subdued responses, but this was how I read them. There were also two other faculty members from the candidate’s university who were from different departments. They were a bit fidgety, but otherwise they just gazed around the room, generally avoiding eye contact with other people on the committee. After a few minutes, the Chair of the committee began the proceedings.
The candidate’s oral presentation of his/her work was awful, as confused and confusing as the dissertation. Could not answer any of the moderately challenging questions asked by the committee, and often responded as though he/she didn’t understand the question. When the candidate’s supervisor asked questions, he spoke tersely and used language that clearly displayed his overall dissatisfaction with the student, the student’s judgment, the research, and the dissertation. When all the painful public discourse was finally over, the candidate left the room so the committee could convene in private to discuss the dissertation and oral defense. The major task for the committee, at this point, is to come to some decision regarding whether it was all passable; that is to say, basically deciding whether the candidate should get the Ph.D., or not.
Remarkably, all the committee members from the candidate’s university basically said something like, “It was not good, but it was good enough.” But, I suspected that none of them really believed it; I sure didn’t. I expressed my misgivings, but I decided to leave it to the committee members from he candidate’s university to decide what judgment should be rendered. Remember, I was the external examiner. So, I was feeling somewhat like a guest, and it didn’t feel my place to be calling out these respected peers of mine for what I perceived was an unfolding lapse of integrity. I was not going to cause any fuss that would make it even harder for them to live with the decision.
I headed off homeward, feeling bad about the way things turned out. I kept thinking about the injustice of it all, considering that several other students in the same department will also get a Ph.D. this year, but they all will have earned it. I was upset with the faculty member who had been this student’s graduate supervisor. I felt he took an easy way out of an important commitment. I thought that he should have done what most faculty members would do and just put up with the annoying student until he or she completed the program in an acceptable manner. I believe he put the others members of the committee up to the idea of just passing this student through. I think the other committee members went along with a bit of reluctance, but they did go along, so I was disappointed that they were such an easy sell. But, most of all, I felt guilty for going along with it, too. After a few hours of ruminating, I decided to put it behind me, and promised myself that I would never again agree to be a committee member for a doctoral student being supervised by this particular faculty member.
A few months later…
It didn’t take long before I was again asked if I would be an external committee for one of this faculty member’s doctoral students. The administrative staff member who contacted me is so nice and pleasant, that I didn’t think to reply, “No thanks,” to the request. When a copy of the student’s dissertation arrived in my mailbox a few days later, I remembered my previous vow never to do this again, but it was too late. Fortunately, this one turned out to be a very good Ph.D. dissertation! Well written and scholarly. The research behind it was ample, and it was solid work. I could tell right away that this person was not an imposter like the last one. In fact, he seemed like a really good researcher and a good analytical and critical thinker.
The day of the oral defense arrived and the whole process went the way things are expected to go — he gave an excellent presentation and handled all the questions very well. It felt good to know that this guy was getting a Ph.D., because he deserved it. And his impressive performance served up a little bit of redemption for the faculty member who supervised his graduate work. Not much, but still a bit, at least in my opinion.
Real Ph.D. versus Sham Ph.D.
Although it was a relief that the second Ph.D. in this story was all very good, it did not correct any of the inappropriateness about the first one. The only thing it changed for me was that I now had some reassurance that this faculty member/graduate supervisor could properly supervise and mentor a doctoral student. It could be argued, on the other hand, that this student made his supervisor look good.
One general message to be taken from this story is that many aspects of higher education are not as standardized as one might expect. I think most people who do not know the two new Ph.D.s in this story personally would view them both with the same high regard, just from knowing that each of them recently earned a Ph.D. from the same prestigious university, and in the same field of study. Without knowing anything more about them than the academic credentials they possess, it would be natural to assume that both of them have exceptional abilities and aptitudes, skills and knowledge, and that they are both now qualified for certain occupations that require a Ph.D. But, these things are really only true about one of them, and none of them seem to be true about the other.
You can’t tell who has a sham Ph.D. until you talk to that person a bit, and even then, anyone who is not an expert in the same field of study will be unlikely to detect the fakery. Someone who has a sham Ph.D. might impress friends, relatives, and neighbors by virtue of having been awarded something as distinguished as a doctoral degree. Importantly, however, it all gets evened out in the job market and over the years as a career develops, … or fails to develop. A sham Ph.D. might come easy, but it doesn’t take anyone far.
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I guess it all comes down to character. I had a colleague from grad school who got the same treatment. Their thesis was undeserving of an UNDERGRADUATE, let alone a PhD candidate, but they now have the same credentials (from one of the top universities in the country) that I do. None of us in the lab (including the advisor) respected this person or their work, and they knew it. I know I never would have been satisfied with a substandard degree given the amount of work I put into it, but for some people, it’s the destination and not the journey that matters most.
Yes, you have hit the nail on the head. It does all come down to character. I suspect that the colleague from grad school to whom you refer has not been able to parlay the academic credentials into a fantastic career.
thank-you for your comments.
I have been a PhD external examiner in the UK and I am really surprised by your comment “I was not going to cause any fuss that would make it even harder for them to live with the decision.” I would have thought that the role of the external was to question, and hopefully overturn, any local fixes. Surely the decision is made jointly, after the viva.
Well, you’re right… the decision was made jointly after the viva. I did express my opinion that the work was substandard, and the other committee members from the candidate’s university agreed with that assessment. But, it was pretty clear that none of them wanted to deal with this candidate’s abject failure by rendering a verdict of failure. To do so would have meant that the supervisor and the internal members of the candidate’s committee would have had a lot more work to do. Since they all seemed to have disdain for this person’s character and personality, I think they wanted to avoid the extra work. I do believe that failing the candidate would have been right course to take, however, but it would not have meant any extra work for me, as external examiner. At the time, I choose not to demand a judgment of failure, and this is the main reason why the whole affair left me lingering bad feelings. I was complicit the awarding of a sham Ph.D. and it left me feeling guilty. I would not have gone along with it if if the candidate was from my university, and I realize that this is a bit of a problem because it should not matter whether its my university or another one. In retrospect, I wish I would not have gone along with the sham described in my commentary. I agree with your view that the role of the external is to question and possibly “overturn any local fixes.” My main reason for writing the commentary in the first place was to let readers know that the integrity of the evaluation process can be undermined by the self-interests of the people on the examining committee. I strongly suspect that those internal members chose a particular course of action to avoid having to deal with more unpleasantness, either from the student or the supervisor. And I am completely certain that the supervisor wanted to pass the candidate for those reasons. And in the end, I also choose to go along with the sham. For me, it wasn’t to avoid having to deal with the candidate, but instead it was to avoid the unpleasant social consequences of saying “we can’t do this” when the others wanted so clearly to do it. So, I’m making a confession of sorts. Perhaps I should have created a bigger fuss. Would I do so if a similar situation occurred in the future? Still not sure that I would, but probably.
This sounds a bit harsh to imply that if you dont have an awesome career after a few years then you must have a ‘sham’ degree. How about the economy sucks and youre lucky if you have a job
I agree, that would be harsh. But, nowhere in this commentary do I imply that someone who doesn’t have an awesome career after a few years must have a “sham” degree. I don’t believe that at all. Instead, I am saying that someone who has a sham Ph.D. will not usually be able to develop a very successful career on the basis of just having the academic credentials. Also, I have not stated, nor even implied, that someone who has earned a Ph.D. on the basis of hard work and merit will find it easy to develop their career. I agree with your point about the economy being in bad shape, and also the idea that people with jobs are fortunate, but those things are not really relevant to the message I am trying to get across in this commentary.
I read this article with a great deal of interest. I am currently working toward a doctoral degree in education. The one thing that I ponder and stress over on a daily basis is that I am doing justice to the data, and more importantly, to the people whom I represent through that data. Their voices are the real representation of my work and I am always aware of the fact that it is incumbent upon me to do the best job possible of making that true reflection heard, as best that “true” can be represented. To present a work such as that described in Dr. Mumby’s article is do do a grave disservice to the field, to the academy, and to the source of the data reported on in the work. The is a great deal of responsibility contained in the the letters of the degree, and it goes much deeper than the ink that makes the stamp on paper!
I couldn’t agree more. And I also suspect that if you ponder and fret daily about the quality and integrity of your research then you are not a poser like the person in my story. I don’t think that person ever cared about doing justice to his/her data or to those other people being represented by those data. In most places, the candidate would have been kicked out of the program at some point, or just allowed to fail. I actually think that if he/she had a different supervisor, he/she would have been given the boot, or allowed to fail. The supervisor in this case is not someone who cares much about integrity; at least, this is my opinion of the supervisor from the many occasions I have spoken with him over the years. I think the supervisor is basically a bully, and that the internal examiners went along with the sham because it was the easiest way to deal with a bullying colleague. I’m not making an excuse for them, but I think this does partly account for their complicity.
I hope that as a Ph.D. candidate yourself, you will have faith that the evaluation process works the way it is supposed to in the vast majority of cases. I hope you will have the confidence to realize that you are becoming an expert in your specific topic. When the day comes that you give your oral defense (or viva) you will probably be more of an expert on your thesis topic than anyone on your examination committee. Most people who maintain their integrity throughout the process of getting a Ph.D. will end up with a valid degree — one that denotes the kind of excellence in ability and accomplishment that we all assume is the behind every Ph.D.
I’m currently finalizing my PhD and I feel like I’m an impostor all the time. I feel that my research is not unique or scholary enough. Reading this article made me feel really really bad. I have worked for 4 years and realized during that time that I´m really no good in science, but what I am supposed to do? Quit and not defend, because I know that I’m no good? Or go to the defense, take the humiliation and finalize something? At the moment I feel like slitting my wrists. Thanks for ruining my day.
Sorry for ruining your day. Maybe I can fix things a bit: First, in my experience, most good graduate students spend a significant amount of time worrying that they might not be good enough. Nearly everyone who gets a Ph.D. in the end deserves it. I say as much in my original post.
One thing I never mentioned in my original commentary is that the Ph.D. candidate in that story probably never worried about whether or not the work was good enough, or whether he/she was good enough. This person was not a typical graduate student in those respects.
If you are getting down on yourself because you have come to believe that you’re “really no good in science…” then I would suggest that you immediately seek a second opinion. Your graduate supervisor probably knows the truth, and you might discover that he or she sees more promise in you than you are able to see yourself. At the very least, your supervisor should be able to help you identify the areas in which you are performing up to par, and if there are shortcomings in your abilities or aptitudes, the supervisor should be able to tell you what they are, and give you some guidance on how to improve on any weaknesses. If your supervisor is a good mentor, then he or she will give you an honest estimate of things. Don’t leave it all to just your own imagination, or your confidence might just continue to slide without any real justification.
If you happen to be someone who has a lousy supervisor/mentor, someone who doesn’t really care much about you beyond whatever you can do for them, then you should go talk about things with someone else on your examinations committee. If you do not yet have an examinations committee, then go talk to a faculty member who knows you and who knows at least a little about your work. Meantime, I hope you cheer can up.
I too was surprised that you did not want to create “a fuss”. I wonder why you did not mention something before the defense, once you had read the dissertation? This may have allowed for more time for discussion and explorations of possible solutions.
I understand my role as an external reviewer to be precisely aimed at this sort of situation. It is meant to help ensure the integrity of the system. We need to be willing to do our jobs, even if it is tough. Otherwise, aren’t we a sham?
Well, I did create a bit of a fuss. I just choose not to create an even bigger fuss. And I did, absolutely, make it clear that I thought the dissertation and the candidate’s oral defense were awful. No one on the examination committee disagreed. Instead, they actually echoed my sentiments. Like I mentioned in the commentary, they all said something along the lines of, “it’s bad, but good enough…” I think it was implicit in their words and actions, however, that what they really meant was something like, “it’s bad, and despite it not being good enough, we are willing to pass it through in order to avoid having to deal with this student any further.”
I really like your closing comment/question — we need to do the right thing at all times, even when it’s tough, otherwise we (examinations committees) are a sham. Agreed. But the unfortunate truth is that things don’t always go the way they should. Examinations committees are not normally a sham, but the story I relate in my commentary shows that sometimes they can be.
thank-you for the great comment.
It just occurred to me that I should clarify something about how the examinations committee operates in the Ph.D. program I am referring to in my original post. There are actually two external examiners. Only one of them is required to provide a written evaluation of the candidate’s dissertation. The other one is not asked to provide a report, but instead, is asked to attend the oral defense, ask questions, and participate in the final evaluation of the candidate. I was that second external examiner, thus, I did not have a written report to write. My feedback was provided only verbally, and on the day of the oral defense (viva).
The other external examiner, who clearly had much more work to do than I did, provided a written evaluation that made it very clear that they agreed with everyone else’s estimation that the dissertation was awful. This other external examiner also provided a few questions, which the Chair of the examination committee read to the candidate, while all of us who were present judged how well the candidate addressed those questions. The Chair had the responsibility of interpreting whether the external examiners report was bad enough to justify failing the candidate. The person who wrote that report was not present, so if he or she believed it was a not a passable dissertation, there was not really an ideal opportunity for that view to be unequivocally expressed. Keep in mind that the external examiner who wrote the detailed evaluative report was not witness to the candidate’s poor performance at the oral defense.
Thanks for sharing your experience. It would have been easier for you to just feel bad about passing the PhD and forgetting about it, but you decided to share your experience and mistake with others.
I am finishing up my PhD, and I am disappointed with the general quality demanded of PhD graduates. In Canada the main “weeding-out” stage at which low-caliber PhD students are booted out is the comprehensive exam. This takes place about a year after the start of a PhD, and it provides an opportunity for examiners to determine whether a candidate knows their stuff. I know one candidate who passed only because she received many MANY hours of coaching and mock exams from her supervisor; she didn’t even know that insects are animals! Dumb as a rock, but she passed with her memorized answers. She and I will have the same degree, which annoys me. With the rapid increase in numbers of PhD graduates, I question how strong the modern relationship is between getting a PhD and actually being a critical independent thinker. Too often, being capable of paying tuition seems to be one of the only critical qualifications for getting your degree.
Many years ago when I was nearing completion of my Ph.D., I felt much the same way that you describe. I had much higher expectations for myself than what it turned out was actually expected by my supervisor or examinations committee. A few years later, when I became a faculty member, I was disturbed by how easy we made things for our Ph.D. candidates. As years went by, I began to lower my expectations so that they were more in line with the established culture within my department — a culture that was there long before I arrived. Inger Mewburn says it like it is: “Experienced examiners are more forgiving,…”
I’m sure the ‘fix’ can be put in anywhere, since so much of academic life is about relationships and collegiality. I’m not going to get holier than thou, but I’d like to think this kind of scenario is a little harder to pull off in the Australian universities I’ve worked in. Our examination process is entirely ‘external’, in that the thesis is sent independently to three examiners [who don't know who else is examining] and forms the sole basis for the final result. Admittedly these examiners could be somebody’s mates, but [just like Dave], everyone treats the process quite seriously.
Do we get fails? Yes, we do, but only about 1%. The ‘experienced examiners are the most forgiving’ phenomenon Dave describes is definitely true. I strive mightily not to have our doctorates sent to anyone who hasn’t had a doctorate for at least five years, preferably longer, and has examined at least five theses. Otherwise, we get the syndrome known as ‘I had to suffer for my art, now it’s your turn’.
I wish we had an examination process that was more like the one you describe. Especially, those features that ensure independence amongst the examiners. I only discovered recently that in Australia the candidate’s supervisor does not serve as one of the examiners. In North America, the supervisor plays a very pivotal role in the evaluation, and the supervisor is usually the person who chooses who else should be asked to serve on the committee. Understandably, many faculty members will try to make their students look good, because a student’s performances is partly a reflection of the faculty member’s ability to train and mentor new researchers. The other examiners often know each other, so if they want to, they can discuss the candidate and his or her work, before the final evaluation. There lots of opportunities for collusion when all the evaluators know each other. Like you mentioned, everyone still treats the process quite seriously most of the time. But I think it would be better to have a system like the Australian one, in which a person can evaluate a doctorate independently, without being fettered by fear of social reprisals from a colleague.
What an interesting discussion. Can I just interject, though, that Australia is terribly small? There aren’t that many people working in exactly the same field, and so it’s at least not theoretically impossible that fixes and deals occur. That’ll probably be the case wherever humans are involved…
I lost quite a bit of respect for this university, and regard it more as a pretentious institution rather than a honorable university. Especially when they tell you that your application wasn’t really considered since your degree is from the other university and not “up to par” with theirs.
I am now 70 years old and I was awarded the Ph.D. 38 years ago. After leaving 4 years of military service, I started out in a 5 year straight Ph.D. program. I registered for every class I could and ended up with a very broad science education without much depth (especially modern research techniques) in any area. My asigned advisor was absent for the last 4 years of my program. I had no other faculty members interested in my research or having any expertise in microbial research. I had no financial support for my research. I fabricated my equipment, stole all the supplies in the department that I could use. I even made trips to a nearby research hospital to steal supplies from their labs. I had a committee selected by the dean of my school, and composed of a Ph.D.microbiologist from a nearby university, an M.D. pathologist from a nearby hospital, the Dr.PH. director of the local public health laboratory, a Ph.D. in statistics, and a Ph.D. in ecology. I felt very depressed considering the effort I had to expend just to get to the point of actually doing any research. Unknown to me, there was a political conflict between my university and the nearby university where my microbiologist committee member was from. This member was hostile to me because of the underlying conflict and also based on his fundamentalist religious beliefs regarding evolution.
I wrote the first draft of my dissertation without committee input and it was soundly rejected. It was not a good dissertation. The data was week, and my techniques were lacking in skill and technical sophistication. The M.D. pathologist offered to help me and gave me good advice on improving the structure of the document, suggested some cleanup experiments, as well as how to maneuver through the committee minefield.
At my defense, the religious microbiologist objected to my data as “flawed” because God did not intend for the organisms He created (the bacteria I did my research on), to change their SDS-PAGE protein profiles. He believed a species was immutable. I was describing phase variation in outer membrane proteins and changes due to horizontal gene transfer. He refused to sign off on the dissertation IF I described my data as I had up to that point.
The dean of my school solved the problem. He advised me to give a special copy of the dissertation to the religious microbiologist, bowing to his demands in the text, and to turn in to the Graduate School office the two required signed copies of the dissertation as I wanted it written. The rest of the committee was made aware of the situation and they agreed to the solution provided by the dean.
I somehow got a post-doc placement in a world-class lab where I learned good technique and overcame my technical deficits. I went on to a successful academic reseach and clinical service career.
ok. i think i have learned enough from the discussion and cant help drawn into it! Have completed my thesis and opting that my supervisor wud finally take the time to check it.I am very upset by the facat that though i have completed each task my supervisor does not have the clue to what exactly i have taken my research into.He never really guided me much except for giving me a topic!
Your experiences are familiar to a lot of graduate students, unfortunately. Some professors are very bad graduate supervisors or advisors, whereas some others are amazingly dedicated to helping their students develop and succeed. Most are in between. Universities do not have adequate quality-control mechanisms or standards to prevent incompetent supervision or abusiveness by faculty members toward their graduate students.
oh god…i imagine i’m not the only person wondering if this is why i passed my viva
The big question is: how do you divorce a PhD candidate who is clearly unwilling to follow the advice of his committee in spite of his inability to write, do research or show respect to those with more experience? Do we just keep sending the proposal back to him until he either pulls up his socks or gives up?
It’s a difficult situation. I think we send the proposal back until it’s good enough. If the supervisor believes the candidate just doesn’t have what it takes to ever get it right, then I think the supervisor should try to convince the candidate to discontinue the program. If the relationship between supervisor and the candidate is not good, and if the candidate distrusts the supervisor and doesn’t respect his or her opinion, then other members of the student’s committee should talk to the candidate. If the candidate is not willing to listen to frank advice from members of the committee, then the Graduate Program Director should take over. In many universities, the Faculty or School of Graduate Studies does an annual evaluation of grad students, which involves having faculty members report on their students’ performance and progress. At my university, if a student gets a bad evaluation, Graduate Studies starts to monitor the student, requiring interim progress reports. At this point, the supervisor and committee members are no longer the only one’s involved in sending “the message” to this student. Eventually, Graduate Studies will “lower the boom”. It’s not going to be pleasant, but it’s better than pushing the incapable candidate through to program to receive a sham PhD. – Dave